MHver3. MHver3Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. @MHver3 Jul 27, 2022 Media consultants don’t think we can get revenue positive (from current projections) adding all 4 corners schools unless there is a bidding war. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. They are looking at 1. ·. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. Replying to. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. Quote. ”“Also telling that PAC12 is saying they are waiting for B10 contract to close before they “know anything”. @bobtrollsby. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. Could also mean NBC/B12 won’t happen. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. That was a guarantee. Baylor is too. “@BIG10Bruin When did I say we weren’t getting some combination of the 4 corner schools. Huge mistake. They could very well join the four south schools in the B12… until the B1G change their mind. Tomorrows another day!”This merger would trigger pro-rata for espn contract and allow fox to reopen their contract-Amazon could be a part of this as well from what I’m hearing. “Let tidbit of the evening: Big12 currently has 20 schools in contact with them regarding membership discussions in various phases of progression. “@godawgs4 Not really. @MHver3. In person. MHver3 on Twitter: "So just to recap the West Coast Spin: PAC has drawn up their GOR mimicking the newest revision to the ACC payout schedule and schools are ready to sign just as soon as they see the money? And Also AZ President had no idea this document was created? Ok. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Sign up“So my new source just told me some of the terms to NDs offer to the ACC: 7 conference games a year with 4 of them home games, 1st choice scheduling, not signing the GOR for football, and something to do with eliminating the exit fee from the charter. Retweets. 7:34 PM · Jul. BC, Wake, Cuse. Louis Oliverio. Amazon gets more first choice. But not the question asked. yes they are extending his “deadline”. See new Tweets“@TreJacksonStan @kg4cy I guess that’s subjective. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. 131. Could also mean ND is rethinking. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Washington was their next choice. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. ·. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Fox already approved pro-rata for both. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Quote Tweets. I don’t normally delete anything. As well as ESPN about triggering the reopening of their contract in the event of additions. Likes. @MHver3 So if B1G Stops, then it seems the most likely outcome is the B12 raids the remaining members. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. 1 — and for No. Become an Annual VIP member today and get access. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. After months of back and forth, with things really heating up since the NCAA tourney started, looks like BY is very close to getting 2 new members a for B12. “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. ”“Going by remarks made at Pac12 media days by Oregon its looking like they are leaning into to shorter term offer from espn and unequal revenue sharing. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. ”GK about to get shipped to China. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 19 Jul 2023 04:22:28. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. 6. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Appx $75m per year. ”Hearing GK struck out with the Amazon/ESPN deal and it’s not even going to the table for a vote-presidents asking him to go back to the networks and negotiate it higher. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. I believe BE still would’ve added several of the schools that they invited later. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. 31 May 2023 12:38:21. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. Gonzaga is in for basketball. ALT. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. But the upside of not paying for production for PACN and the possibility of additional revenues for leased games could see the deal approach the low $20m per team. @MHver3 CU board is in lockstep to pursue B12 membership if GK doesn’t come through with promised deal by June 30th…. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. 3. Retweets. “You can’t make this stuff up! (Though I will be accused of it anyway 😂). We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 33. Amazon gets more first choice. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Also learning that Stanford has told B10 they will join for a drastically reduced cut of the tv money. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. No one has control. “Those of you worrying about access to playoffs due to harder due to W/L record if B12 drops scheduling FCS and moved to 10 conference games-relax. It’s the eve of yet another deadline for Pac12 media deal to be presented to members. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans. SawyerBrown94 @RChalk94 · Jul 20. 23. @MHver3. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. and @Mountaineer_Ste. MHver3 @MHver3. Quote Tweets. 26 Mar 2023 03:01:53Ah-here’s where the subscriber metrics come into play for Apple TV deal: subscription service add on that would see a majority of the baseball games, half the basketball games, and some football games locked behind a paywall. @xtmountain. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign upFwiw I’m hearing the ION Tv thing was a red herring fed to McMurphy and Kliavkoff is only a few days away from having 2 final proposals in hand to take to his schools for voting. The PAC show of unity tweet…. When information hits I have a duty to share (even if the text comes at 12:15am and I have to work at 6am!). I don’t hate the PAC. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. It’s who is 14 that is still up in the air (izona?). 27. If Jimbo gets fired from TAMU (unlikely but possible) he would be the front runner. Retweets. It got nasty from what I’ve been told. They let UCF pass them up. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Interestingly enough there is another school in these discussions with Boise that is interested in joining just Olympic sports…”“@tsaundry13 You’ve convinced me. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Their additions brought stability. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. GIF. 1. Would help them reclaim partially, a soon to be lost market, and actually aligns very well culturally with PAC. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. We don’t have the endowment they have. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. ”Log in. As did VT. Likes. Replying to . Do you prefer to move to the B10 for the money that you really don’t need with Phil Knight’s checkbook-where you will play 2nd fiddle to many? Or do you prefer becoming the top dog in the B12 conference?”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. The BYU factor”Interestingly enough Stanford and Cal would not be part of this proposed merger. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. ”“Since everyone is regurgitating Mandel’s garbage today allow me one last time to explain why the ratings don’t matter here and are in fact flawed. Still planning for a possible defection or 3. ”Log in. Likes. Mountaineer Steve. Retweets. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. TomKat“One of the two sources that shared this told me that Stanford is pushing for B12 to rebrand if they add the PAC schools. Replying to @Tomkatf14. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. Learn to create and view Twitter threads to provide additional context or updates. AZ has and AZSU problem. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. This happened sometime in the past few days. 3 — is made for TV. The in-fighting is bad currently with those schools. There. 2. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. The latest tweets from @MHver3 @MHver3 It is expected that tonight, Az and CU leadership will officially sign off on moving forward with officially applying for membership with Big12. You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. Replying to. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. Also the FB CCG. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. ”“How BIgEast conference’s demise as a power conference is playing a role in Big12’s current thought process regarding expansion, tv contract, and GOR. Gonzaga is in for basketball. USC and UCLA moved the needle a lot. AZ has and AZSU problem. “Just wanted to pop in and drop off some WVU related info. Washington State puts up shockingly good TV numbers. SMU especially due to political and religious connotations…table that fwiw. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. 13. ConversationReports that Pac12 is assessing SDSU and SMU are old news that many have known since USC and UCLA bolted. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. ” March 7th. “@RChalk94 Governance would make the final call though. UConn is still in the air as there could maybe be an all sports invite coming if the right circumstances occur but may be a bball only. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. This happened sometime in the past few days. 19. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. Replying to @MHver3. 5m was for 6 years” @MHver3 I’m hearing that Kliavkoff has plans to visit UNLV, Fresno St, and Boise St over the next few weeks. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet”” “@flugempire @YouTube The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Retweets. twitter. Half of that is what espn wants to buy for the B12 network. 5m. MHver3. Could also mean ND is rethinking. @MHver3. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 4:22 AM · Jul 19, 2023. “So this was considered sensitive info for awhile but the silence of these 2 universities is about to be over. @MHver3. FOX would be on board for heavily discounted PAC programming but we aren’t there just yet. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. I just wish I could get some info from the PAC but that has dried up the past few days. A playoff appearance by OKST or Baylor or KSU would change the calculus quite a bit. ”Log in. Bradley Berry M. Stanford/Cal 13. Again they did not have 8 yes votes for either school. That will never happen because these additions are based on valuation metrics. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be. ”“Expansion committee presented a lot of info to Bowlsby and Yormark. 5% each. ”What did I tell you? No new movement to share with PAC presidents. . If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40@MHver3 · 1h. Log in. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. @MHver3. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. Things have escalated. Retweets. “@ConfCommandos Schwartzwalder wasn’t really a ratings boon after McNabb finished his 10 year career at Cuse though. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. And GK. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. ”Expansion notes thread since some of these are all over the place I thought I’d just consolidate into one place. This meeting is supposed to introduce a “new” interested party to possibly sell their Tier 2 package to for a higher rate than what Amazon is offering. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Sign up“@tsaundry13 Too early to tell. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. March 7th. 159. and @TheAPBerry. B12 has a chance to get into 20m households with additions. Also a high ranking member of. 2. 251. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. 11. I actually don’t want more western schools. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. No football home for Uconn in exchange either. 11. I’m hearing we could see a vote by B12 to add them within the next week or so barring a major development. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. Once the ACC declines the ridiculous terms of the offer ND is free to pursue other options. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. Oh btw there is an AZ board of regents. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. @MHver3 BYU will raise that profile as they would come in and immediately be at least the second most valuable media rights member behind KU (as much as I hate that) due to their worldwide following. 2. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACCN/Pac12N broadcasting agreement talks fell apart when the Comcast Pac12 scandal broke. ”Log in. 18 Mar 2023 01:39:09“@PAULHAR16697272 It’s a long story but he held up B12 expanding with FSU and Clemson because he swore he had Notre Dame in the hook to join as well (being friends with Swarbrick). 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. Yormark has a vision. “And what’s interesting as well is my B1G source is telling me if ND decides to join B1G then Stanford is the desired partner to come with ND and they will stop there for possibly forever. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. 3. This is the “Tier1” package. ”Log in. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. BYU has requested an exclusion to allow certain games of theirs to be simulcast on their network. They are content to sit at 16 and wait out Notre Dame. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. 2. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. Washington has now reached out to the B12 about membership options that include an out of the GOR for B10 membership. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Retweets. Might even see a Huskie or two. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. “@MaynardMtnMan Wasn’t Nebraska a true powerhouse ?”posted by CougarrrsLog in. Show more replies. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came. “And then the Tier 3 which would see PAC12N move to Apple with all the rest of the total sports content for about $40m per year”Less than $200m currently. $320m per year for 12 years. Cliff notes of meetings: Colorado will rejoin the B12. @MHver3 The worst-case scenario for WVU, of course, is the Big 10 standing pat and the Pac 12, still with UW and ORE, picking off several Big 12 teams and leaving the rest of the Big 12 in the wilderness. See new Tweets“And B12 may just add those 3 and stop and wait to see what happens 5-10 years from now. MHver3 @MHver3. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. While I’m not “back” yet I do have some things to share since speaking with a source today. ”MHver3 @MHver3. THE OUTLAW @Cougarsportsfan · 19m. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. 7:34 PM · Jul 20, 2022 MHver3. Utah athletic director Mark Harlan needs just four words to disarm the Arizona-to-Big 12 narrative. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. The additional money you see with the total conference payouts includes bowls, CFP, ncaa. ”Just heard from a source that Oregon has reached out to the B12 about potential membership with the condition they have a negotiated out of the GOR if the B10 comes calling. FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. OMG I was wrong. “@BobOThomson Yes. @MHver3. Huskies have come back to the table. We currently get about $4m for that same content. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. 1 — and for No. Throwing darts at walls still, MHVer3?@MHver3. Would the B12 take them?”Sources telling me B12 plans to extend acceptance to Gonzaga following the NCAA tournament. MHver3, a Twitter user who posts controversial and speculative tweets about college football, claims that BYU and Houston are the initial targets for the Big 12's. Oregon was the third choice as a. 9. " / Twitter. You are just regurgitating what you see on your twitter TL. ”An excellent read that was just sent to me that really summarizes what has transpired in the past year and where we stand now-though if you’ve been following me you already know this tale. Yormark has a vision. Sign up. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. I’m packing it up. ”See new Tweets. He’s also telling me the big catch with the apple deal would be research grants to member schools-an area apple has been historically lagging behind other tech companies. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. @CFBKnights. His rumors are interesting and just believable enough ,. The only 2 schools in the PAC that B12 has had no open dialogue with are the Cali schools. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. ”MHver3 on Twitter: "CU and AZ are NOT worried about exposure by joining B12 as most if their games would be lye window games so that report is most likely coming from Utah or AZSU. 4. “Hearing BY is meeting with a school president from that conference on the pacific coast. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. Found. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. I think something will happen to try to satisfy these demands. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. Jul 6, 2022. Jul 12. ”Log in. Quote Tweets. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. @MHver3. Feb 21. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. 35 seconds to PACmidnight. Replying to. That’s it. read image description. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. Pitt actually did improve after the move.