Pre Retcon is still cooler, jist because of cosmology Expansion, defenders beyonder seems stronger but he is featless for now. They may have gotten stronger and better feats post ret con but I. it would be mostly stalemate. And with this analogy, Alovenus/Ruphas can create L1A character A in fiction A, But can easily defeated By character B In fiction B. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 124. I think HOI vision, GOS loki, GOP thor all beat astral regulator Thanos (arguments can show that gop and gos neg thanos) that's only to name a few, I'm sure there's more specially since u included non cannon. It took 3 of the Beyonders to take down the same LT. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far above the Living Tribunal. Scarlet King (SCP) Respect The Scarlet King (SCP Foundation)beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and AnswersPre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. 548. Beyonder trivially. If we separate the pre-Retcon Beyonder from the current current lineup, it's probably more powerful than an infinite dimensional multiverse, and even the highest-level beings in it are far more powerful than those who didn't fully transcend the concept of dimension at the time. Pre retcon MM scared the cosmics of the 80s even as groups, they had to just let him pass by out of fear, even beg him to fight Beyonder. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Sorted by: 9. Giratina has quickly established itself as one of the stronger characters of the Low 2-C tier. TOBA is just TOAA's alternate persona. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal Replies: 12; Forum: Questions and Answers Pre Retcon Beyonder Stomps, the only powers that could hope to challenge him are The One Above, the Ultimate Source, The Presence, The Living Tribunal. 1. Phoenix in the new defenders will fight against Ômega Beyonder who are most powerful than pré-retcon Beyonder) 10 True Form Oblivion {See all Creation and Cosmos like a infinitesimal to him, he is the outside of Cosmos, The Previour outside are below than far shore, but the. VERDICT: For those unaware beyonder is not just 1-A: He's HIGH 1-A, FAR greater than infinity itself. The rest was necessary PIS to make a more interesting story and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. Skyfather. Beyonder even realized he was the Pre-Retcon one too lol. Pre-retcon Beyonder is beyond all that. Dem nah, There's toaa, pre retcon beyonder, toba,and true form oblivion as obvious choices but there's actually alot more. Also Beyonder obviously isn't mightier than TOAA virtue of TOAA literally being his author. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Sungsam. i wanted to do this match but their was also too big of a tier gap, but now it can happen both 1-A obviouslyYujiro copies The Beyonder's abilities but then says he won't need them to defeat him before showing The Beyonder the woman in him. And form. Yes, pre-retcon MM was strong, but he needed so much support to get anything done. Literally any one of the hundred omnipotent beings in Marvel could. Pre-Retcon beyonder could be said to be the "God before genesis" he was God before TOAA existed in the comics at that time, and when TOAA came into existence as an omnipotent character they had to greatly reduce the power of the Beyonder, from there they began to know him as "Post-retcon beyonder". The same way how Marvel was back then a multiverse. Name: Beyonder. Pre-retcon Beyonder is his most popular matchup, or at least the one I see most often, but who's his closest?. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. 2 years ago. It's Shown Here ''Upon reaching the House, he hid himself until the Defenders finished their business. But basically Dr. I mean even Thor was cracking those versions, so unless the writers really wanted Beyonder-tier Thor I think it's pretty obvious that they weren't at 100% in those forms. M. #. Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated. Imagion all he powers in the Marvel Multiverse (which is infinite), not just the Multiverse but also every being in it, and emptyness (which is also infinite) beyond it (blank pages) Even Stan Lee stated in an interview in the 80s, that Beyonder was supose to represent the power the writers had over the comics. ) Pre-recton Beyonder, was the sum of everything. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. 4,453 1,084. With the tumor, Hajun has an Taiyoku level of Infinity . Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. Jan 22, 2018; Thread starter #2 bump . Summary. " (Fun fact, guys like EGD and Beyonder exists outside. Attack techniques and abilities: The Presence has many aspects including. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Round 9: Lord English (Anyone who served him and who were amped by him count) Respect Thread for him and a bit for his Servants. There's a reason why the word "retcon" is used; pre-retcon Beyonder doesn't exist anymore. The Beyonder(Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. • 1 year ago. Business, Economics, and Finance. Although, if you forced me to choose one, i'd say Beyonder is a little above Molecule Man. . GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. and to give Beyonder a curiosity, a reason to visit Earth in SWII. PRB has a lot of showings that would suggest otherwise. PR Beyonder > Celestials > Phoenix Force. Morals off. I am unsure post-retcon Beyonder would even beat that version of her, which was a far. Within the beyond realm, he's supposed to be omnipresent. Dr Manhattan isn't a match for Galactus, and Galactus is a mere insect to the Beyonder. Not only this, due to scaling, Hajun has taken. TOAAPRESENCE1. Beyonder is a million times larger than an Infinite Dimensional Multiverse, the difference between him and an Omniverse is far greater than the one between MM. All reality was a dream created by Beyonder. Nice. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. " it would be pretty cool to get a tag team them lol but very interesting thank you for. That being said, Pre-Retcon Beyonder was the HIGHEST tier character Marvel ever had. Then there the Beyonder Child unit thing that is related to The beyonders. Tier: High 1-B | At least High 1-B | High 1-A | High 1-A. Rune King Thor can't beat Omnipotential beings such as The Beyonders and Cosmic Cubes. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Lucifer Morningstar in character could probally beat him. The Beyonder was originally an organizer of a massive. SirMethos. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. Mar 9, 2022. So as we know, Phoenix Force is an extremely powerful entity in Marvel. Well even pre retcon beyonder. Thought Robot without any effort. She easily could hold an infinite-D multiverse in her hand, while Beyonder's best feat was to shake an infinite-D multiverse. Btw- Is anyone going to give an actual reason why Beyonder wins, or is this battle gonna be judged on. The entire Watcher. The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. Rune King Thor can still lose to the Abstract beings such as Eternity and Infinity. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. 7 K than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. PR Beyonder takes it 10/10. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. According to that one guy Anos could do it,. Its not like the writer of marvel has dominon only over character. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP). I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. But it wont be easy by no means. Lucifer could just tricked Beyonder like Molecule Man did to Beyonder. 10. Pre recton beyonder is one of the most over wanked marvel characters . Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. Forum Posts. Posts. No, he is likely Presence level. Versions-Strongest. (50% off!) Beyonder vs The Presence. Origin: Marvel. Created by. Thor Vs Justice League : Vs AVENGERS : 12 Cosmic Beings in Marvel : 2, 2016. so i think the only characters. R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. He needed to use his entire power to kill mistress death which left him drained . He may have to resort to starving. 14 years ago. PR-Beyonder gets slapped like a red-headed stepchild, and people still keep trying to throw him in. PRE RETCON BEYONDER goes to the DRAGON BALL universe and fights all Dragonball characters at the same time - this includes Zeno Sama, The Angels, Whis, All Gods of Destruction, Broly, Goku, Vegeta, etc. Both Beyonder (assuming this is him outside his personal realm) and the Presence, since both are like Low 1-B, this could go either way. Well technically Dr. To start us off: What about:In fact, Pre-Retcon Beyonder had a completely different origin than being a child unit. Goku is low outer at best and byonder is easily outerversal. More than just high1-b, only this support for low 1-a. Doom did. Not an expert on Beyonder, I just have a rough idea of his tier of power. 8 years ago. The Presence vs. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. Featherine is way above than Beyonder. The energy breached into reality during the accident that gave Owen his powers, but as there was no container, a large part of such energy wandered off into another universe, creating the Beyonder. . The Beyonder deafeated Doom-avec-Galactus' power and dissected him. Tier Sıralamasını benden iyi biliyorsan Elder Scrolls taki Dragonborn, Kratos ve Dante gibi karakterlerin tüm Mcu. Fight takes place in an empty multiverse. Reinhard or Mercurius could beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. The one below all (TOBA). Strength. SCP-682 (SCP Foundation) vs Beyonder (Pre Retcon) Fight ends only in Death. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. CC Goku is outerversal while in Uni Blue, meanwhile Pre retcon Beyonder as far as i know is high outer and has way better feats, apart from being part of a much larger cosmology. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and The Presence? Menu. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. They’re 50 tonners at most. I think it was Uncanny X-men 203#. @higherpower: I'd be delighted if you can name more than five people who can "blink" a Pre-Retcon Beyonder level character "out of existence. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are. Reply. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. But that doesn't mean Perpetua's feats are bad. Follow 1963. island. Pre Retcon Beyonder is far far beyond any of his other forms. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. Pre-Retcon Beyonder (33 votes) Lucifer 61%. Tiering System: High 1-B | 1-A. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk (Classics); formerly the Elder gods should be top of their tier. Ruphas not in baseline L1A, Ruphas can easily defeated Alovenus which is rated L1A character. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. Powers are basically the same thing. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. She isn't on the level of Lucifer, or PR Beyonder, or anywhere close to TOAA. Tbh fights at this level have unknown victories and are really just up to people's opinions at that point. Pre Retcon Beyonder is non-canon Don't use that excuse unless you only want to use the inhuman/Mutant Beyonder. Nov 25, 2017. Beyonder is strong but not that strong. 2. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. COIE Anti Monitor. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. Scathan has decided he no longer "Approves" of the beyonders exsistance. With this skill (plot manipulation), still can affect Pr beyonder. we dont really see him at that tier because of how much good servants are at controlling collateral damage. He was the TOAA of. The Beyonder, and Molecule man, are each. He could possibly neutralise Doc and Sun with science alone but the others are true top-end with actual god tier powers. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. Beyonder and Thanos . And yeah he stomps. There is no way to square all of. PR Beyonder is probably the strongest comic character there is if you go by feats alone and not by hype. S. Speed. Beyonder. . In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. I can break this down into more detail. Galactus (when reasonably fed) and the strongest Celestials. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. And he has just way more hax and reality manipulation against the mostly physical Goku to handle! 11. Dude’s absolutely broken. From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days. Master-Tee • 2 yr. The Beyonder is a cosmic being of immense power, often labelled as omnipotent during the issues of Secret Wars, and much stronger than all the other cosmic entities. I have little knowledge on LT Unfourantlly other then he's a God Tier in. 4 12 12 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A CynicalWeeaboo • 7 yr. Besides Pre-Retcon Beyonder, TOAA and Pre-Retcon Molecule Man, no one in Earth-616 is more powerful than LT. . Forum Posts. I don’t know anything about Anos Voldigoad, but Beyonder beats pretty much anyone so I’ll. 214. Alovenus is the strongest in fiction since Alovenus>Omnipotent beings. #4. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen being who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel Universe and had them do battle on another planet called Battleworld. TOAA probably isn't more powerful than suggsverse characters. laj11900 • 2 yr. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. He is a cosmic cube which is an Omni-dimensional object that can expand infinitely but that is only a limited part of him because he limits himself. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. Nothing beats Pre-Retcon Beyonder! Pre-Retcon Beyonder was THE Supreme Being of Marvel! The TOAA before TOAA existed! He was basically God! God Emperor Doom (The Secret Wars 2015 version) would. All proof that is needed is the fact that he is beyond the marvel multiverse. Dr Manhattan is a very proficient matter-energy manipulator. CryptoA registered-source only wiki that is built upon stolen concepts (They stole from a Russian Wiki called Anime-Fight Club which just like Vsbattles Wiki is biased against comics) and known for stealing loads of information from Outskirts Battle Dome and Google+ (from my friends) and trying to pass it as if they know the information themselves until. Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Respect Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. I have him at Multiversal. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. The Beyonder is far, far beyond a Multiversal. Just because that occurred, does not mean Pre-Retcon Beyonder's "im ominoptent" statement holds any weight. 66. He. He's a high tier multiversal reality warper. #1 KalKent1297. The difference is that the first Beyonder was presented as having a radically different backstory and widely divergent level of power to how he was presented before. Disable any adblocker and tracking prevention then try again. Age: Unknown. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. #5. • Pre-Retcon Beyonder • Pre-Retcon Molecule Man-----Multiversal • The Living Tribunal • Gabriel • Beyonder • Molecule Man. Pre retcon beyonder was the closest to TOAA I think any being has come to. You know that. Beyonder scaled above all. I can break this down into more detail. If I argue against you it's because I find your logic flawed and won't count your vote unless you provide sufficient. 0. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. Here, let me pull a Beyonder feat out of my ass: With mere thoughts, the Beyonder subjects the entirety of Earth and all of its' inhabitants (down to the very microbes) to his rule, causing the most powerful leaders to bow to him instantly. Beyonder - vs - Beyonder # 3. True Darkseid might actually have a chance though. and nothing comes up. He is superior to LT, but to what degree is unknown. Beyonder displayed far superior implicated power than the. bigbran. One shieldy boi. The One Above All; Beyonder (Pre Retcon). Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. It's stated so multiple times throughout the comics. Doom absorbed the power of Galactus to unlock more of MM's power and MM eventually needed everyone's help (especially Silver Surfer) to defeat the Beyonder. MM is superior to LT due to defeating the Beyonders, who one-shotted LT in a. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. 11,582. -Everything in bleach. Only if the Beyonder is in his realm, but that becomes a major stomp based on whats said here. 4 years ago. Beyonder (Post-Retcon) Beyonder Prime Marvel Universe. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. Alien X is free of any indecisiveness, and both are bloodlusted. Yeah All Mighty Wins. in classic era: Jim. Lucifer and Michael together are omnipotent. That's actually like a low showing for him. Spectre. The Beyonder/s (Marvel) vs Bleach universe. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. But seeing hat The Pre Retcon Beyonder was basically on the Living Tribunal's level. He'd be incredibly more versetile with his approach in the fight. Holy moley. That's clearly an difference in power/authority. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. - Neither. 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. 4 years ago. Living Tribunal has been beaten by several characters that are weaker than. CsmicRanker1314 1. Plot Manipulation user (Marvel Comics) Defenders: Beyond #1-5 Beyonder Post-Retcon: It was stated and proven that he was capable manipulating his own canonicity and is aware of his own pervious retcons. Teams that give him a good enough fight to make him respect them he lets live. 9 K Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Round 2: Franklin wins. So it turns out that the Beyonder from Secret Wars,Secret Wars 2 is returning in the current Defenders run: Cannot connect to Twitter. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. WF Mr. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. . Servant tier -the gil that appears at fate stay night, fate strange fake and as a servant in fate go(not the alive gil). 8 ) ^ TIER Super Power Score and Level. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Belligerents: Composite Time Lords from Doctor Who and the Pre-retcon Beyonder from Marvel Comics. 2. The Beyonder at his full power pre-retcon is omnipotent. He later. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Bill also got more experience than Beyonder since Bill is over 1 trillion-year-old. Tier Limit-Outerversal. P. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. Yet beings like Nyatharlope can create infinite numbers of infinite universes of infinite dimensions easily. Hell, Featherine Augustus Aurora is more "omnipotent" than him,. deactivated-5b3daad020468. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. Beyonder is marvel. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Basically he is like the Amalgam Brothers, but so much powerful the Brothers would be microscopic in comparison. . 1 Answer. I have him at Multiversal. 1,102. Inhuman Mutant beyonder probably pretty sure it was his powers in spidey that let him remake all creation in a fraction of a second. 2. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder. The Beyonder has been retconned. Cosmic. Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. MJJ's powers keep increasing exponentialy. Making Beyonder stronger than a Tier 0 is not at all the same as scaling him to TLT. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy. Mephisto said that The Beyonder could make idlest imaginings a reality with a wave of his hand, turning all of existence inside out), Vibration Manipulation (Created an earthquake throughout the city), Attack Reflection (Deflected Magneto's power beam towards the X-Men), Magnetism Manipulation (Repelled Magneto by duplicating his own. About; History; Powers; Equipment; Movies; Gallery; Battles; Comments; Edit; Power Stats; SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. @higherpower: I'd be delighted if you can name more than five people who can "blink" a Pre-Retcon Beyonder level character "out of existence. The brothers are strongest than the living tribunal and the spectre. Eg: The D's from Tenchi Muyo!, Giygas from Earthbound, Kubik and Post - Retcon Beyonder both from Marvel Comics, Milleniummon from Digimon, and Q from Star Trek, Celestial level: Easily universe. Using these lines of evidence, pre-retcon beyonder clearly wields greater control over reality than OT god. That one time Phoenix Force making Pre Retcon Beyonder struggle: is this a testament to her power? Scan in question. Tier: 1-B | 1-A. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Pre-Retcon Beyonder. 0. The biggest question is Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs HOTU. The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon)should be Tier 0. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion (Pre-Retcon)?The Pre-Retcon Beyonder is the embodiment of the Beyond-Realm and is the chief of the extra-dimensional race the Beyonders who created the cosmic cubes and Kosmos, but the Maker (one of the. @zxzcczzcxz said: Fodder comic verse that lose to barely street tier verse and can't beat Warframe and Destiny vs high. First Tier Mages vs Molecule Ma Round 1: The Mages are sane and aren't Marauders. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. Manhattan is super strong. As in you're taking the story at face value. Follow 3209. PR Beyonder was able to erase LT with a wave of his hand. He would also be the main villain in. And Anyone that says Dragonball characters can beat someone like the Living Tribunal is delusional. The being known as the Beyonder is, in fact, a young member of an. Sep 20, 2018. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Follow. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. While The Living Tribunal is rated 1-A (more than The Beyonder)and 616 Eternity or Multi-Eternity is rated High 1-B (same as The Beyonder). Ruphas have Higher dimensional manip. Even an Taiyoku level of One is easily Outerversal level. All of Thanos’ feats are fodder tier in comparison to him. I/O has a low-tier character that is on the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder and everyone, as in literally EVERYONE, even the. Reply Slaine_Troyard •. Forum Posts. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 10/10 destroy Flash. 2. Seriously at his peak height, Pre Retcon Beyonder was something that no current DC character could handle. Defenders Beyond prove GoS abilities work on Beyonders or no. Conceptual Beings In Marvel are A Heavy Case Even Complex to Pre Retcon Beyonder and Comprehension in General More Real Than they Are so they create Forms and Allow others to Create forms of them to Interact or. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. . A desperate Molecule Man begins crying about the. Presence isn't all that impressive either, but enough to. Not even remotely close. Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. Conceptual Warping Tier C vs Particle Manipulating Tier B. There has been several incarnations of the Beyonder, each a retcon of the one before. The Scarlet King is a single universe outer God. Yes. Matter of fact she doesn’t even beat Mister Mxyztplk. He's been away from the Marvel Universe for a while but now he's back in all of his overpowered. Both High 1-B Thanos: 2 Beyonder:8 Inconclusive: 1 P. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. The beyonder is accordingy to comic book guys a 5th tier cosmic. This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. That's actually like a low showing for him. 1 of 2 Go to page. LT literally held the entirety of Marvel and DC universe in the palm of. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. The Beyonder is a fictional character appearing in comicbooks published by Marvel Comics.